tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11738269.post7119924630088764280..comments2023-10-02T05:33:15.293-05:00Comments on The Contemporary Calvinist: This Week in Calvinism - July 13, 2007Lee Sheltonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11254842261338255019noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11738269.post-50647526726552841432007-07-19T11:26:00.000-05:002007-07-19T11:26:00.000-05:00Hey, LeeThanks for the questions. As to the latter...Hey, Lee<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the questions. As to the latter one, it really wasn't the "pretty much even" comment with which I was concerned but the presumption behind it. Namely, the "Despite the fact that Calvinists and Arminians disagree on who has the final say in salvation." I would ask you, Lee, to name one serious, evangelical Arminian theologian who advocates that anyone other than God possesses the final say in salvation. <BR/><BR/>As to the former question, classic Arminianism definitively does not teach man possesses the inherent ability to choose God. Rather, it teaches every bit as strongly as classic Calvinism that human beings are dead in trepassess and sins in the sense that they cannot choose God. It is only by previenient grace working thru the Gospel that human beings receive ability to believe. James Arminius believed and taught this.<BR/><BR/>Grace to you, Lee. With that, I am...<BR/><BR/>Peterpeter lumpkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00515936082186368659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11738269.post-72716077245609860182007-07-19T10:53:00.000-05:002007-07-19T10:53:00.000-05:00Peter,Are you saying that Arminians really don't b...Peter,<BR/><BR/>Are you saying that Arminians really don't believe in free will? If man lacks the inherent ability to choose God, then he doesn't have free will. So, how exactly am I "not even close"?<BR/><BR/>As to your post ("Historic Calvinism and classical Arminianism both rightly embrace the Biblical notion of God's Sovereignty"), I merely stated that you were saying that Calvinists and Arminians are "pretty much equal when it comes to embracing God's Sovereignty." How did I not read that correctly?Lee Sheltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11254842261338255019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11738269.post-12520526699386418512007-07-15T21:34:00.000-05:002007-07-15T21:34:00.000-05:00Thanks for all this.Thanks for all this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11738269.post-89370228524672391622007-07-13T10:47:00.000-05:002007-07-13T10:47:00.000-05:00Lee,Good post. Though, I must disappoint you: I ...Lee,<BR/><BR/>Good post. Though, I must disappoint you: I do not own the shirt. Yet, anyways :^)<BR/><BR/>I must insist, however, that you did not read my post near so well. Evidently, neither have you read Arminianism so well either. <BR/><BR/>You write :"Arminians believe that sinful man has the inherent ability to accept or reject God." Nope. Not even close, my brother Lee. Not even close. <BR/><BR/>With that, I am...<BR/><BR/>Peterpeter lumpkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00515936082186368659noreply@blogger.com